. >> guest: parkinson, a british historian, he wrote something about the british navy. after world war i, he had downsized the navy, however, the government agency in the navy, increased in size. and so he became involved with producing flawed. the amount of work they have to do, and has nothing to do with their size. let them expand, if they will. in the case of government, their main thing is their own interests, bureaucratic interest, the main thing is human nature to expand. this is not just government. any organization left alone will fall into this as to why they were created and become self interested in returning. the nice thing about the free markets is that if you have a company that does that, you cease to exist and you don't have the power of the government to keep you going. >> host: so if you are in congress and if you were the president, do you go to a zero-based budget? >> it is more than budgets. it is creating the environment where entrepreneurship temblors. one of the things we discuss in the book is degrading the value of the dollar. it is about coercion. suddenly, your g